Comments on: 4th Edition Round Table: Races

By: Andy

Andy — Tue, 30 Sep 2008 15:45:23 +0000

On first glance, it seems that 4th edition is geared more toward the 13-16 year old WoW players

By: Graham

Graham — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:36:03 +0000

Understood.

It is a unique ability that isn’t possible for any other character, however. It’s not great in most situations, but it doesn’t suck either. It’s “Meh” from me, but I don’t feel they’re quite a Miss.

Meh, personal preference anyways.

Graham’s last post on http://criticalanklebites.com: Final thoughts after marathon 4e release day events

By: Bartoneus

Bartoneus — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:20:11 +0000

Graham: The fact of the matter is that it is still arguably a worse racial ability than simply getting a bonus feat, and has extremely limited potential. My main reasoning behind this is I think I know what they were going for with the ability, and I don’t feel it is successful in that.

By: Graham

Graham — Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:05:47 +0000

@TME -

While true, action points make it still very useful (eyebite, invisible, action point, attack).

Additionally, going invisible and moving to set up for an OA. Or just playing with a Warlord who can grant you attacks (though in this case they can usually help flank as well).

Grahams last blog post..Final thoughts after marathon 4e release day events

By: The Game

The Game — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:13:02 +0000

I’m sure they’ll still see plenty of play because of their style, but I’d find it unlikely that we’re missing anything. Their power seems pretty straightforward.

Then again, I didn’t look at their racial feats all that closely, so maybe that helps them out a bit.

By: ScottM

ScottM — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 19:09:08 +0000

They sound cool, though I’m surprised that they let the Tieflings be less cool than the others. Or is it just that we (as players) haven’t figured out cool synergies for them yet?

By: The Main Event

The Main Event — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 15:57:56 +0000

@ Graham: Actually Eyebite-backstabby doesn’t quite work that way. It only grants you invisibility until the START of your next turn, so you lose combat advantage by the time you attack the next round. You could, however, burn an action point after using the eyebite. Secondly, for a single feat slot, you can simply take Warlock multi-classing and get eyebite; whereas the other racial powers are not so easily replicated…

By: Bartoneus

Bartoneus — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 14:47:01 +0000

Graham: It still seems that the options and combinations that are as useful as the one you mention are far too limited to be considered as good as the other racial abilities, such as re-rolling an attack per encounter which is universally useful to every class and in every encounter. The interesting decision becomes when to use it, and not which class you should pick so you can actually take advantage of your crappy racial ability.

The Human and Elven racial feats sounds nice, but when you look at the feats themselves it isn’t all that much better than just being a human or an elf - access to both is not much of a benefit (unless there’s some killer combo we haven’t noticed yet).

By: Graham

Graham — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 05:03:41 +0000

I have to disagree on the half-elves. They can take both human and elf racial feats, which is nice. And the usefulness of the multiclass power depends on what power you take.

For instance, the half-elf Rogue in the Game Day adventure took the Warlock power of Eyebite. This deals some small damage, but it also makes you invisible to the target for a round. That’s an incredibly good power as a level 1 Rogue dependent on combat advantage!

By: 4th Edition Round Table: Classes and Other Topics : Critical Hits

4th Edition Round Table: Classes and Other Topics : Critical Hits — Fri, 06 Jun 2008 04:13:02 +0000

[...] as with the core races, we also talked about the Classes in the new 4E PHB. Of course, we ended up going on a few tangents [...]